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Lieberman: “A fighter does not need to the battlefield with a lawyer”

August 29, 2016

Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman: “A fighter does not need to go to the battlefield with a lawyer”

Aug 29, 2016, 3:46PM

Source: Lieberman: “A fighter does not need to the battlefield with a lawyer” – Israel Politics News | JerusalemOnline

photo Credit: Reuters/Channel 2 News

Lieberman strongly criticized how the media has responded to the trial of Elor Azaria, the Hebron soldier who shot the terrorist, and the Israeli fighter who shot a Palestinian earlier today.

A fighter does not need to go to the battlefield with a lawyer,” Israel’s Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman stated this morning in reference to the trial of Elor Azaria, who is being investigated for shooting a terrorist, and the Israeli fighter who shot a Palestinian in Ofra earlier today, which was reported on JerusalemOnline.

“I would like to take this opportunity and to appeal to the Israeli media in three parts,” he stated. “First of all, the Israeli media needs to remember that Israel is a democratic country who only convicts people in court. It isn’t the media but the courts that decide. This includes Azaria and the other soldier.”

“The second thing that people need to remember is that we are fighting against terrorists every day,” Lieberman added. “They cannot go out on a mission with a lawyer glued to them. To reach a situation where every soldier asks for a lawyer before going out on a mission is impossible. I expect for the Israeli media to strengthen Israel’s deterrence and not to deter the soldiers in their struggle against the terrorists.”

Earlier today, one of Azaria’s commanders concurred with Lieberman regarding Azaria: “All of the time we updated that a knife is only the beginning and the day will come when there will be something greater, such a shooting incident or an explosive device. When the commanders came to the scene of the incident, it is the first thing that they think about. When I saw this big body and heard a citizen shout ‘fear of explosive device,’ this creates a frightening picture. I think that it is impossible to state at the scene that there is no fear and that there is a chance that something else is there.”

“As long as the incident is not finished, it is impossible to state that there was no danger to human life,” he added. “When terrorists are alive in the area, the danger exists. The terrorist was shot and moved a little. He was still a danger and I didn’t for nothing position a soldier beside him to differentiate him from the first terrorist that was shot in the head. I instructed soldiers to make sure that the terrorist doesn’t move and that they need to follow the rules of engagement. I positioned him further away for I feared an explosive device. The soldier was instructed to shoot if the terrorist implemented sudden movements or moved his hands towards his body. This shifting of responsibility is not responsible.”

MSNBC Slams Israel’s ‘Extreme Right-Wing’ Government in Wake of Terror Attack

June 9, 2016

MSNBC Slams Israel’s ‘Extreme Right-Wing’ Government in Wake of Terror Attack, NewsbustersKyle Drennen, June 8, 2016

(Please see also, ‘Uneaten birthday cakes next to pools of blood’.  

The MSNBC transcript does not suggest that the attack had anything to do with Ramadan, or even mention Ramadan. — DM)

During live MSNBC coverage of a terrorist attack in Tel Aviv in the 3 p.m. ET hour on Wednesday, NBC correspondents Ayman Mohyeldin and Martin Fletcher took turns blaming Israel’s “right-wing” government for Palestinian “frustration.”

Mohyeldin ranted: “…in terms of the context of what has been happening in the occupied Palestinian territories, the occupation, the shift of Israeli politics, including now the current government, more to the right, to what has been described by Israelis as even more of an extreme right-wing government, some of the measures that have taken place in the West Bank, the siege that continues in Gaza, all of those continue to fester.”

He then argued those policies created “the sense of depravation, the sense of frustration, the lack of any clarity on a political process”and declared: “There’s a tremendous amount of frustration among Palestinians who live in the occupied West Bank coupled with the shift of Israeli politics to the right, and that has led to even further measures of what Palestinians say is oppression in the occupied West Bank.”

Anchor Kate Snow replied: “A boiling point, perhaps.” She then turned to Fletcher and asked: “I just wonder whether this will be a call to action on – on both sides.” Fletcher responded: “Will it lead either side towards any movement towards peace or understanding that they need to make real progress? Probably not.”

He then joined Mohyeldin in hitting Israel:

I mean, as Ayman said, the Israeli government – you know, we keep – every few years we say, “Oh, this is the most right-wing government in Israel’s history,” and it just keeps getting more right-wing.So the chances that there’s going to be a move towards peace as a result of a violent shooting is probably the wrong conclusion. If anything, with the new defense minister, Avigdor Liberman, really an extremely right-winger, he will be – a settler himself – he will be calling, clearly as a defense minister, for a strong response of some kind.

Here is a transcript of the June 8 exchange:

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AYMAN MOHYELDIN: But in the bigger picture, in terms of the context of what has been happening in the occupied Palestinian territories, the occupation, the shift of Israeli politics, including now the current government more to the right to what has been described by Israelis as even more of a extreme right-wing government, some of the measures that have taken place in the West Bank, the siege that continues in Gaza, all of those continue to fester.

And as a result, the sense of depravation, the sense of frustration, the lack of any clarity on a political process that would lead to a – some kind of peace process, if you will, all of that has been brewing for the past several months. It’s been systematic for the last several years in terms of the ongoing occupation, but really, what we’ve seen is a spike, as Martin [Fletcher] was saying, in the past nine months with these wave of attacks. That has been a huge factor in why we are seeing this sudden spike.

There’s a tremendous amount of frustration among Palestinians who live in the occupied West Bank coupled with the shift of Israeli politics to the right, and that has led to even further measures of what Palestinians say is oppression in the occupied West Bank. The lack of any progress on the front with Gaza, it has been just a very – it’s been a recipe of disaster.

KATE SNOW: A boiling point, perhaps. Martin, as we – I’m trying to think back, and we’ve heard so much about the knife attacks that have happened last fall, I think, that was the last big spate of them – but is this – if you can put this in context, how significant is an event like this? And we’re talking about three people dead, multiple injuries. I mean, it looks a lot like what we saw in Paris, although not on the same scale. I guess I just wonder whether this will be a call to action on – on both sides.

MARTIN FLETCHER: Well, probably not much will change in the situation because of this. Because it was feared, the Palestinian – different Palestinian groups are trying to do this kind of thing. But it’s a shock, certainly to the Israeli public. It’s a shock because Tel Aviv is always sort of a rather hip, cool place outside the mainstream of the violence. Occasionally it reaches Tel Aviv with devastating effect. There have been bus bombs in Tel Aviv over the years and the attacks like this, but they have been far and few between.

The – I mean, from the point of view of the attackers, this was a successful attack that will shock the Israelis, but actually, will it change anything? Will it lead either side towards any movement towards peace or understanding that they need to make real progress? Probably not. I mean, as Ayman said, the Israeli government – you know, we keep – every few years we say, “Oh, this is the most right-wing government in Israel’s history,” and it just keeps getting more right-wing. So the chances that there’s going to be a move towards peace as a result of a violent shooting is probably the wrong conclusion. If anything, with the new defense minister, Avigdor Liberman, really an extremely right-winger, he will be – a settler himself – he will be calling, clearly as a defense minister, for a strong response of some kind.

MOHYELDIN: And this will be, correct me if I’m wrong, but really the first test on the security front for this new right-wing coalition government that was just formed within the last couple of weeks. This is the first, certainly the first significant major incident that has happened since this government has come into formation. And so I suspect, as Martin was saying, you’re going to hear tough talk in terms of measurements, in terms of if they identify and conclude that this is in fact the result of a Palestinian terrorist group or if a Palestinian individual was acting out.

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First test for Lieberman from Iran and Hizballah

May 26, 2016

First test for Lieberman from Iran and Hizballah, DEBKAfile, May 26, 2016

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The Middle East is full of surprises, but they are rarely disconnected from events. This applies to the speech made by Hizballah secretary Hassan Nasrallah on Wednesday May 25 which dredged up the past from 1992 in an allegation that the IDF while in Beirut, kidnapped four Iranian diplomats and is secretly holding them alive till this day in a jail in Israel.

He was not the first to resuscitate this old story. Monday May 23 the Iranian Defense Minister Brigadier General Hossein Dehqan brought it up, suddenly and surprisingly, in a special interview he gave to the Iranian news site Defa Press News.

General Dehqan said, “We claim on the basis of proofs that they are alive and in captivity by the Zionist regime.” He went on to say that, “the Israelis are responsible for the health of the Iranian diplomats.” He was referring to: charge d’affaires of the Iranian Embassy in Beirut Seyed Mohsen Mousavi, military attaché Ahmad Motevaselian, embassy technician Taghi Rastegar Moghadam, Islamic republic news agency Kazzem Akhavan.

Two days later, on Wednesday, while saying that ‘the resistance axis’ – meaning Iran-Syria-Hizballah – has not forgotten the Palestinian problem, Nasrallah said: “We have more land under Israeli occupation.”

Nasrallah had a long orderly list of ‘occupied places’: Shaaba Farms, The Kfar Shouba Hills, meaning Har Dov, and Ghajar village. “We also have”, Nasrallah continued, “captives and missing people whose families still wait for their return.”  And, “On the legal and ethical level, there is a Lebanese responsibility towards the four Iranian diplomats who were handed over to Israel.”

According to Nasrallah, just as the occupied lands must be returned, so must the Iranian diplomats be returned, first of all to Lebanon.

Nasrallah next turned to speak about the new Israeli Defense Minister calling him “crazy”.

Seven years ago, in 2009, German mediators were invited to broker a prisoner swap between Israel and Hizballah. They arranged for the bodies of the IDF soldiers: Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev, whom Hizballah abducted and murdered in 2006, to be returned. The Germans established that the four Iranian diplomats had never been by held by Israel but were captured by Christian Phalangists and were apparently executed by them.

This finding was never accepted by the Iranian Foreign Ministry who insisted that their four diplomats were still in Israeli captivity.

The Iranian Defense Minister and the Hizballah leader have obviously coordinated the resuscitation of the diplomats’ fate and intended to use it as a tool to justify military or terrorist action against Israel.

DEBKAfile’s military and intelligence sources point to two reasons for the Iranian-Hizballah move:

  1. A first test for the new Israeli defense minister Avigdor Lieberman. They want to determine his responses to aggression and establish the measure of his control of Israeli military deployments on the Syrian and Lebanese borders. His predecessor, Moshe Yaalon, was conversant with every detail of those deployments.
  2. Tehran and Hizballah, have publically admitted that Israel had no hand in the assassination of the Hizballah military leader in Syria, Mustafa Badr Al Din, near Damascus on May 13. But as a morale booster for Shiite forces in Syria they may resort to a strike against Israel, Saudi Arabia or Jordan, whom they believe complicit in the killing.

They estimate that Israel, with its new defense minister, is the most vulnerable target.

No one has a monopoly on values

May 22, 2016

No one has a monopoly on values, Israel Hayom, Boaz Bismuth, May 22, 2016

No one has a monopoly on values, including the Left and the media. Nearly 40 years ago, in May 1977, the media witnessed the victory of Menachem Begin’s Likud, the fulfillment of what was for it an apocalyptic prophecy. Almost 40 years have passed, the Likud is still in power (and an “unimportant” peace deal was signed with Egypt on the way), and the media still doesn’t understand how the people can choose differently. Since the media is never wrong, it takes care to create an imaginary reality for us in which the citizens of Israel are dying of hunger in the streets, the survivors are fascist occupiers, and those who believe in the sanctity of the land of Israel are messianic or right-wing extremists. There is no other option.

After claiming a monopoly on values (just like the Left, and sometimes part of the Right), the media consistently tries to bring the latest person to leave the Likud into its ranks. In the past, it was Roni Milo, Ariel Sharon (both before the disengagement from Gaza and after it), and Gideon Sa’ar, and now outgoing Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon. Things must be really dreary on the Left if the media needs to pick on the Right time after time.

The desire to present current events (the Hebron shooting of an immobilized Palestinian, the speech by the deputy IDF chief) as watershed events in the history of relations between the military and the state is factually incorrect. Unpleasant to say, it’s even nonsense. We’ve known much harder periods in terms of the military’s relations with the country as a whole — after the Yom Kippur War in 1973, for example, or the disengagement in 2005 — but memories are short.

Do you remember that war more than four decades ago, in which 2,600 soldiers were killed due to a serious intelligence failure? Back then, people really did leave the country. They didn’t just threaten to, they simply left. “A fallout of weakings,” the late Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin called them. The schism was immense. The darkest scenario had come to pass: Society lost faith in the army. Is that the situation today?

Today, they are trying to create a new reality, like in 1973 after the war, but the opposite — the upper military echelon has lost faith in the people. Yes, you read that correctly. The Middle East is so quiet that those in uniform have free time for a new pedagogical role — handing out grades to society. The media, of course, welcomes it, because this conduct fits in with its own agenda.

Let’s suppose for a minute that the Left was in power, and senior officers were to take matters of value and morality into their own hands, but in the other direction: to the right. Would the media embrace them in that case, too?

In the reality in which we live, a senior officer (major general) who compares processes taking place here to the Germans in the 1930s is a man of values, but an officer who invites his soldiers to pray before an action in Gaza? That’s darker, even reminiscent of Iran. It’s a shame that Albert Einstein isn’t here to test the theory of moral relativism in our country. Perhaps we should recall Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower’s command prior to the invasion of Normandy on June 6, 1944, when he called on all Allied soldiers to “beseech the blessing of Almighty God” before the operation?

Since it was announced that Yisrael Beytenu leader Avigdor Lieberman was joining the coalition, everyone has been whipped into a frenzy. As if the man hasn’t already served as foreign minister, as if Israel’s defense minister decided to launch wars and wasn’t overseen by the prime minister and the cabinet and the military leadership. Again, we have apocalyptic predictions by the chorus of pundits, which last week proved that its understanding of the political system is as limited as its understanding of the people’s wishes.

And another brief reminder, not from 1948 or 1973, but rather from March 2015, when Israel held elections. Remember? The people made the media eat dirt, and it can’t forgive them.

In that same election, the people spoke clearly and said “Right.” In effect, the Right had a bloc of 67 mandates. Yisrael Beytenu’s place was in the coalition. What just happened is a correction. Incidentally, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu actually wanted Isaac Herzog and the Zionist Union to join the government, but Herzog couldn’t supply the goods. What we’ve gotten instead is a stronger coalition. In other words, the government now has a better chance of surviving. The media, of course, can’t accept the move as a positive one so long as it hopes the government will fall. So what does it do? “Pollute” (a term from one of the news broadcasts on Saturday) the process. Lieberman, who as of Saturday was worthy as an anti-Bibi member of the coalition, has suddenly become a pathetic, inexperienced guy, and Netanyahu is supposedly busy just trying to hang on politically — as if Shimon Peres, in his time, only dreamed of resigning.

All the events of this past week are essentially political. It’s amazing to see how experienced journalists are horrified by coalition moves. Haven’t we seen dirty tricks and political opportunism in the past? Haven’t we sometimes made territorial concessions that matched the needs of the hour more than ideology?

This weekend, I returned from France, the nation of human rights. The news shows talked with concern about anarchists who were creating disturbances and damaging property. Their economy is bogged down; their political system is having a hard time producing leaders; absorbing refugees is a problem; and the extreme Right, which won the European Parliament election in 2014, is threatening to repeat its performance in next year’s presidential election. Surprisingly, I didn’t see any French analyst or journalist expressing concern on a live broadcast that his children might leave the country.

The media must always remember that here, the people are sovereign. We should remember that the chosen people (I suppose that this makes me a condescending fascist) is also the people that chooses, and its vote counts for more than ratings.

Bibi’s foes seeking a Promised Land

May 21, 2016

Bibi’s foes seeking a Promised Land, DEBKAfile, May 21, 2016

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The unprecedented political and personal attacks on Friday night by opponents and former allies of Prime Minister Netanyahu and Defense Minister-designate Avigdor Lieberman, who used every possible media platform to warn that “the fascists are coming,” is more indicative of their personal and political situation than the domestic political reality of the State of Israel.

In their opinion, the appointment of Lieberman to defense minister, as his predecessor Moshe Ya’alon said, shows that extremism, violence and racism in Israeli society is undermining the country’s strength and is already having a detrimental effect on the IDF. Ya’alon also accused pro-government sections of disrespect for srael’s judges and its supreme court to the detriment of the rule of law. The Israeli media said Ya’alon’s statement marked the emergence of a new leader of what it called “the sane right-of-center camp.”

In other words, anyone who does not belong to that camp is not sane.

The right-of-center camp, if it comes into being, would be a major and important change in Israeli politics. Until now, the Israeli public has been led to believe that the left-of-center camp is the one that is sane. This time, even the Israeli media understand that the left has been completely discredited and that it is time to finally shift towards the right.

But that is not the main point. Rather, opponents of Netanyahu and Lieberman refuse to accept that large parts of Israeli society are tired of being “sane”, of the hypocrisy, of political correctness, and of local media outlets with such views.

With the increasing disappearance of relevant news in Israeli media outlets, what do we see and read each day? A procession of stories on organized crime families, con men, rapists, pedophiles, and small-time crooks, as well as lawyers with enormous egos who represent them.

Perhaps the prime minister was right when he said recently that the IDF should restart holding parades on Independence Day each year, as it did for more than 20 years, to maintain “sanity” and counterbalance the endless coverage on crime.   Large sectors of the Israeli public are sick and tired of the politicians, who pretend to be righteous men, and those who turn to the Supreme Court for the resolution of every problem.

There are also large parts of Israeli society that have lost faith in the Supreme Court and in the country’s justice system as a whole and do not always recognize it as  properly carrying forward the rule of law.

Thus, it would have been possible to relate more seriously to Ya’alon’s comments if he had called for far-reaching reform of Israel’s legal authorities.

After all, it must be said openly that not only has the judicial system failed in its war against corruption and crime, but there are already initial signs that the system is not immune to these threats, and that they have spread into the system itself.

Therefore, Ya’alon’s claims regarding the rule of law, and its effect on the IDF, is a sign that he is not capable of understanding what is truly happening in Israeli society and why there is opposition to his statement within parts of the society and the IDF, and will not have the influence that he wants to achieve.

It was also a combination of two different ideas: law, which is passed by the Knesset, and justice, which is determined by the authority of the courts that must follow the law.

Besides the hypocrisy, the attacks on Lieberman’s appointment are tinged with racism. The recent political developments indicate that the Russian immigrants who entered Israeli politics in the mid-1990s have finally reached the most influential positions in the government.

To call these politicians “fascists” and “Rasputin” indicates pointless.

Those who consider themselves “Israel’s elite” have lost power, and even worse have lost hope of regaining power, so they are allowing themselves to make wild accusations without any inhibitions.

The nightmare of the “sane” camp is if Saudi King Salman and Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, along with Netanyahu and Lieberman, will sit on the same podium and sign a cooperation agreement. But this is a reality that is happening every day, not just wishful thinking.

That is why the Israeli media did not publish a single word when Saudi multimillionaire and international businessman Walid Ben Talal last month opened the first Saudi embassy in Israel, located at 14 David Flusser street in Jerusalem. The international businessman is considered close to the king’s son, Deputy Crown Prince and Defense Minister Mohammed bin Salman.

Accusations of fascism onece hurled against the late Menachem Begin, who was never forgiven by Israel’s left for reaching power through the ballot box and then  t signing the historic peace treaty with Egypt in 1979.

A number of high-profile political figures think that the rule by Benyamin Netanyahu is the worst thing that has happened in the history of the State of Israel. These include Ya’alon along with fellow ex-IDF chiefs of staff Gabi Ashkenazi and Benny Gantz, Zionist Camp party chairman Yitzhak Herzog, former Interior Minister Gideon Sa’ar, former Shin Bet domestic security service chief Yuval Diskin and former Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni.

In order to bring Netanyahu’s rule to an end, they have all gotten into the same “boat” and set off for the “promised land.”

There is just one problem. Where is the boat headed in the stormy waters of the Middle East?

This land didn’t exist in the past and it doesn’t exist now. That is why they pullback in every general elections. The result of this journey to the “promised land” will be the opposite of what they expect. The flood of attacks on Netanyahu and Lieberman will only strengthen them and increase their public support.

It should be said to Herzog’s credit that he was the first among this group of politicians to understand that the only method available to opponents of Netanyahu, Lieberman and the ruling Likud party is to rid themselves of the radical left and the destructive voices within their movements.

A determined struggle to achieve that goal would create an opposition with a positive action plan, and a good chance of taking power, for the first time in recent years.