Iran deal ‘done,’ Israeli report says, after major US concessions
Iran deal ‘done,’ Israeli report says, after major US concessions
Channel 2 analyst Ehud Yaari says agreement will be signed early next week after US drops demand for snap inspections; Obama faces challenge of securing Congress’ approval
By Times of Israel staff and AFP July 10, 2015, 9:59 pm
via Iran deal ‘done,’ Israeli report says, after major US concessions | The Times of Israel.
deal has been reached between the world powers and Iran over the latter’s nuclear program after a series of major American concessions, Ehud Yaari, the Middle East affairs commentator for Israel’s Channel 2 television, said Friday night. “It is done. It is done,” he said, and will be signed “early next week.”
The aim of the agreement is to put a negotiated end to a 13-year standoff with Iran over its suspect nuclear program and to block its pathway to developing a nuclear bomb in exchange for lifting biting global sanctions. Israel’s leadership has relentlessly opposed the emerging agreement, with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu warning that it will pave Iran’s path to a nuclear arsenal.
According to Yaari, Israel’s most respected Middle East analyst, the deal was reached because the Americans “have made a series of capitulations over the past two to three weeks in almost every key aspect that was being debated.”
Yaari said that even those in the US who had supported the agreement with Iran “admit that it is worse than they thought.” Now, he said, the ball is in the court of Democratic lawmakers who have to decide whether to support their president as he seeks to secure Congressional approval, or to join the vocal Republican opposition to an agreement.
Ehud Yaari (photo credit: courtesy)
One major concession, Yaari said, is the issue of inspections of Iranian nuclear sites, which has long been a sticking point in the negotiations. According to Yaari, the US negotiators have given in to an Iranian demand that inspections are “managed” — in other words, there will be no surprise visits, only those that are pre-arranged and approved by the Iranian regime.
While there has been no official word that the deal is finalized, US Secretary of State John Kerry said Friday evening that progress had been made in the talks, and praised what he called the “constructive” atmosphere.
“I think we have resolved some of the things that were outstanding and we’ve made some progress,” he said, speaking to a few reporters as he met with his team of experts in Vienna.
Meetings have been happening all day, Kerry said, adding: “We have a couple of different lines of discussion that are going on right now.”
“The atmosphere is very constructive,” he told the reporters who travelled with him from Washington.
“We still have a couple of very difficult issues, and we’ll be sitting down to discuss those in the very near term – this evening and into tomorrow.”
The talks are now heading into their third weekend in Vienna. Kerry met Friday morning with his Iranian counterpart Mohammad Zarif in an effort to close remaining gaps.
The terms of a 2013 interim accord under which Iran has suspended much of its uranium enrichment in return for some sanctions relief were extended to Monday in a bid to overcome a deadlock.
France’s Laurent Fabius and British Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond are also due to return to the Austrian capital Saturday in the hopes of advancing the deal.
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July 10, 2015 at 11:41 PM
I never understood who will keep iran on her commitments in a agreement ?
The EU , Rusia , Usa,Israel, Nato ? sanctions red lines, all options are on the table ?
All together, loud and clear screaming ” Non-Proliferation ”
Even when signed it is nothing .
The big prophet say it in this way “if I take an oath and later find something else better, I do what is better and break my oath (see Sahih Bukhari V7B67N427nt .
And than are we 15 year back in time but Iran has her nukes and all sanctions are gone , money converted into a big army and proxy terrorist.
Non-Proliferation ( signed and broken by Iran ) means i do what i want and if they do not like it we go negotiating and get what i want.
Any deal is useless with Iran , bomb the living daylight out of their nuke installations, if necessary repeat .
Realize it , Iran has the whole world by the nuts . it is nuts !
July 11, 2015 at 3:22 AM
LOL, the only one who might enforce would be Israel.
Don’t forget, Iran has signed the NPT and is still under 5 UN resolutions banning uranium enrichment. Israel will have to enforce these soon to defend whatever is left of the international nonproliferation effort.
July 11, 2015 at 4:02 AM
Forget Israel, once a deal is signed Israel will lose all legitimacy for an attack. Neville Netanyahu would not do it when it would have been simpler, he won’t do it now that the world has put him in a straight jacket. It is written!
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July 11, 2015 at 8:00 AM
Mark for me the 1000 $ question is why are we letting it going this way .
I have an opinion about that why ,as i have said from day one here .
But i like to read your idea about that why , would you be so kind to give us your opinion .
Israel is not in a position to enforce the NPT , they never signed it , and that was a smart move .
July 11, 2015 at 3:28 PM
Just my opinion, but….
“I saw my enemies in Munich, and they are worms.”
Adolph Hitler.
There are two ways to deal with evil. Yes there is evil in this world.
1. Appease it.
2. Destroy it.
At the start of WWII the allies tried to appease evil , ultimately causing over 50 million to die.
When the U.S. went after Saddam (a evil man) it was criticized for being the worlds bully. Obama is trying a different tact.
Unfortunately, when you appease or try to compromise with evil it takes your measure as a worm ripe for destruction.
The mad Mullahs of Iran want a global caliphate ruled by sharia law, hell on earth for women, gays and infidels.
The mad mullahs see the infidels of the world as worms. Convert or die.
As with Hitler they will not be content to live in a world of men/ nations but only in a world of Muslims in a global Caliphate.
So what to do? Any thoughts
July 11, 2015 at 3:44 PM
You know my opinion, but to be complete clear , again.
Bomb the living day light out of their nuke installations, repeat if necessary .
Do it now or do it later .
July 11, 2015 at 4:09 PM
Joop, on this you and I are in complete agreement!
July 12, 2015 at 7:57 PM
Why is who letting it go this way? BHO, his lackey Kerry, and rest of the cowards at the negotiating table?
All I can tell you is that Israel won’t stand for this capitulation as Bibi said this morning. The diplomatic track is completely dead now, regardless of whether this final capitulation takes effect or not.
Bibi and his Cabinet are down to a very short window to decide what to do. If they don’t take action soon, then they are just as suicidal as the rest of the West!!!
July 12, 2015 at 10:21 PM
What can i tell you, what do i know ?
July 11, 2015 at 11:02 AM
John Prophet,
I fully agree with your comment.
Once that deal is signed, the military options will be almost non-existent, as Netanyahu’s capabilities will be immensely diminished.
He’ll find himself in a very, very straight jacket, to use your expression.
July 11, 2015 at 3:36 PM
But after signing the deal , what will be the options for new USA president ?
Is the USA not putting itself also in a corner ?
Or the whole world is pushed in a corner?
Or just a new negotiating in a couple of years ?
July 11, 2015 at 3:42 PM
Agreed, that’s why history will harshly judge Neville Netanyahu as the PM that put the citizens of Israel in mortal danger by farming out their safety to others.
July 11, 2015 at 3:46 PM
It was already done years ago if the USA was not holding Israel back .
Is Israel the only country who is endangered by Iranian nukes ?
July 11, 2015 at 4:06 PM
A strong leader would not let anyone put his people in mortal danger!
July 11, 2015 at 4:02 PM
My doubt about why Netanyahu didn’t bomb Iran’s nuclear plants years ago stands with mathematical possibilities, and possible retaliation.
He, together with the upper echelons of the military and the different intelligence agencies, put on a balance the pros and the cons.
And my gut feeling is that they didn’t took the step, contrary to what happened in Irak (1981) and Syria (2007) because the cons outweighed the pros.
They lost the capability of a surprise attack (the Iranians might be many things, but not stupid), and it seems that all the top guys in both the MoD, Aman, Mossad and Shin Bet said (actually this is on the internet), that attacking Iran would be suicidal.
Israel can only do so much, and the retaliation thay might have suffered was probably what made them call the attack off.
But I don’t know; as I said, this is just my personal opinion.
July 11, 2015 at 4:07 PM
Then Israel is doomed.
July 11, 2015 at 4:13 PM
Time will learn , there are still options, not opportune to talk about it .
July 11, 2015 at 4:44 PM
I wouldn’t go as far as saying that they are doomed.
As I said in a previous post, the number 1 guy in israel when it comes to mathematical, statistical and AI knowledge, said in an interview (I’ve been trying to find it in order to provide a link, but to no avail) that there might still be another option on the table.
Obviously, he didn’t gave any details.
But that makes me think that those people know something that we obviously don’t.
Time will tell, but what I’m sure of is that there’s no easy way out of this one.
July 11, 2015 at 4:48 PM
Hope you’re right.
July 11, 2015 at 4:07 PM
Agree, but why not taking in account, the pressure of the USA not to do it ?
I say the same a while ago “Israel can only do so much ” Israel needs the back up , and there is and was none .
July 11, 2015 at 4:13 PM
Depends on how far back in time you want to go. There’s was a time when this whole mess could have been squashed with little to no blow back, before Obama for example. But alas, it’s all water under the bridge now.
July 11, 2015 at 4:16 PM
Before obama it was the same, but you are right it is skiing on snow from yesterday .
But snow from yesterday can learn us something .
Read this .
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Contributors/When-Ben-Gurion-said-no-to-JFK
and this
“Dear Mr. Prime Minister:
“I welcome your letter of May 12 and am giving it careful study.
“Meanwhile, I have received from Ambassador Barbour a report of his conversation with you on May 14 regarding the arrangements for visiting the Dimona reactor. I should like to add some personal comments on that subject.
“I am sure you will agree that there is no more urgent business for the whole world than the control of nuclear weapons. We both recognized this when we talked together two years ago, and I emphasized it again when I met with Mrs. Meir just after Christmas. The dangers in the proliferation of national nuclear weapons systems are so obvious that I am sure I need not repeat them here.
“It is because of our preoccupation with this problem that my Government has sought to arrange with you for periodic visits to Dimona. When we spoke together in May 1961 you said that we might make whatever use we wished of the information resulting from the first visit of American scientists to Dimona and that you would agree to further visits by neutrals as well. I had assumed from Mrs. Meir’s comment that there would be no problem between us on this.
“We are concerned with the disturbing effects on world stability which would accompany the development of a nuclear weapons capability by Israel. I cannot imagine that the Arabs would refrain from turning to the Soviet Union for assistance if Israel were to develop a nuclear weapons capability–with all the consequences this would hold. But the problem is much larger than its impact on the Middle East. Development of a nuclear weapons capability by Israel would almost certainly lead other larger countries, that have so far refrained from such development, to feel that they must follow suit.
“As I made clear in my press conference of May 8, we have a deep commitment to the security of Israel. In addition this country supports Israel in a wide variety of other ways which are well known to both of us. [4-1/2 lines of source text not declassified]
“I can well appreciate your concern for developments in the UAR. But I see no present or imminent nuclear threat to Israel from there. I am assured that our intelligence on this question is good and that the Egyptians do not presently have any installation comparable to Dimona, nor any facilities potentially capable of nuclear weapons production. But, of course, if you have information that would support a contrary conclusion, I should like to receive it from you through Ambassador Barbour. We have the capacity to check it.
“I trust this message will convey the sense of urgency and the perspective in which I view your Government’s early assent to the proposal first put to you by Ambassador Barbour on April 2.
“Sincerely,
“John F. Kennedy”
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/FRUS5_18_63.html
Ben Gurion was smart , that is why Israel still exist .
July 11, 2015 at 4:39 PM
Joop, then I guess Israel is and will alway be subject to the whim of others. There will come a point and I think it’s fast approaching when the world will see Israel is more bother than it’s worth.
This is what happens when you put your fate in the hands of others.
July 11, 2015 at 5:08 PM
JP it are just Jews , the world give a damn thing about them. as is proven now and in the past, They have learned the lessons .
But their faith is not in the hand of others , it comes in the end to a point of surviving or not, that point is not reach YET , for now it is more opportune to walk all other possible roads , and there are still roads left , they building steadily on it , no shocks to the system .
You did not read this ?
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Contributors/When-Ben-Gurion-said-no-to-JFK
July 11, 2015 at 4:33 PM
“The question, therefore, is not whether Netanyahu or any other Israeli leader can say no in the face of determined American pressure – there are enough precedents. Rather, the issue is whether Obama’s demands are dangerous enough to justify the costs resulting from an escalating conflict.”
“Wiping Israel off the map is not up for negotiation,” he said according to Kol Yisrael radio.
If a 2nd holocaust isn’t dangerous enough then I do not know what is.
July 11, 2015 at 4:49 PM
Time will learn , there are still options, not opportune to talk about it .
July 11, 2015 at 5:52 PM
Yup read it and used a quote from it in my above post.
“The question, therefore, is not whether Netanyahu or any other Israeli leader can say no in the face of determined American pressure – there are enough precedents. Rather, the issue is whether Obama’s demands are dangerous enough to justify the costs resulting from an escalating conflict.”
July 11, 2015 at 6:46 PM
I,am sure that will be discussed in the Israeli goverment at daily base with all disciplines .
July 11, 2015 at 6:50 PM
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