Off Topic: Elizabeth Warren Sides With Israel, Not With the Liberals Who Keep Daydreaming About Her
Elizabeth Warren Sides With Israel, Not With the Liberals Who Keep Daydreaming About Her.
( Warren is being pilloried by the “progressive” media in the States for being pro-Israel. Watch her speech to understand why I believe she is the only candidate the Dems could field who would actually deserve your vote. – JW )
Slate.com
Last month’s Netroots Nation conference brought about a virtual epidemic of Warrenmania: The contagious theory that freshman Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren is ideally positioned to challenge Hillary Clinton for president, and that she hasn’t really ruled that out.
I was skeptical, because she has ruled this out, many times, and because of a nagging worry some Clinton doubters shared with me. They didn’t know where Warren was on foreign policy. Clinton’s neoliberal hawkishness, which had created the conditions for beating her in 2008, was well known. But Warren had never really staked out a foreign policy vision, not even in her memoir. In Detroit, when reporters for the conservative Capitol City Project ambushed Warren with a Gaza question, she Speedy Gonzales’d her way to a hotel elevator.
Via Glenn Greenwald, here’s a report from C. Ryan Barber on how Warren handled the Israel question. (The report is one week old; maybe we were all busy with real news last week.) In Cape Cod, a Warren supporter told the senator he disagreed with her recent vote to fully fund Israel’s Iron Dome, and that people were “disagreeing with Israel using their guns against innocents.” He was not alone; according to Gallup, Democrats viewed Israel’s operation in Gaza as “unjustified” by a 47-31 margin, and independents opposed the operation by a 46-36 margin.
Yet Warren didn’t agree with them, or with the voter.
“America has a very special relationship with Israel. Israel lives in a very dangerous part of the world, and a part of the world where there aren’t many liberal democracies and democracies that are controlled by the rule of law. And we very much need an ally in that part of the world.”
Warren said Hamas has attacked Israel “indiscriminately,” but with the Iron Dome defense system, the missiles have “not had the terrorist effect Hamas hoped for.” When pressed by another member of the crowd about civilian casualties from Israel’s attacks, Warren said she believes those casualties are the “last thing Israel wants.”
“But when Hamas puts its rocket launchers next to hospitals, next to schools, they’re using their civilian population to protect their military assets. And I believe Israel has a right, at that point, to defend itself,” Warren said, drawing applause.
A few weeks ago, when Warren announced a post-midterms trip to Israel, it was covered as a box-checking exercise for a possible 2016 run. What if it’s not that? What if Warren has the foreign policy views you might expect from a baby boomer who was a registered Republican during much of the Clinton presidency? In that case, she’s not well positioned at all to build a left-wing political coalition against the Clintons, as she keeps saying she won’t do. Brian Schweitzer—now, there’s a guy ready to go to Hillary Clinton’s left on foreign policy. But well, you know.
December 15, 2014 at 7:52 PM
JW,
I can’t speak for others, but ever since 9/11 it’s been clear to me that only one political party in the US takes our national security seriously.
I can never vote for the Rats again ever under any circumstances.
They’ve stabbed us and our allies in the backs far too many times in the last 13 years to even consider it.
December 16, 2014 at 10:46 AM
Mark…
My view is that our political parties are little more than dust clouds to conceal the oligarchs that have the real power.
As such, I look to the individuals rather than party affiliation in determining my vote.
Warren appears as a non-ideological beacon of truth among the “rats.” In many ways, so does Rand Paul. Both display courage of conviction against the smoke screens laid out by there respective parties.
That Warren is being targeted from the left for her pro-Israel views serves only to solidify my opinion of her.
As FDR once said, “They are unanimous in their hate for me — and I welcome their hatred.”
December 16, 2014 at 4:31 PM
Elizabeth Warren would certainly make a far better candidate for the Democrats than Hillary Rotten Clinton. Still, I feel compelled to vote for the truly conservative candidates. Elizabeth Warren, while a shining light in a room full of burned out bulbs, is pretty much a lefty.
Of course, from my perspective, I would never vote again for a Massachusetts Republican candidate like Romney, much less Warren. (OK, I’m not perfect.) In fact, if the Repubs offer up another RINO in 2016, I’ll be at my favorite fishing hole on election day.
In reality, these so called ‘moderate’ and ‘conservative’ candidates from Massachusetts are far left when viewed by most folks from the southern States.
Like the old saying goes, “Lache pas la patate” translated “hold on to the potato” meaning “never give up”. When it comes to holding the line on conservatism, I’ll be holding on to my potato.
December 16, 2014 at 5:16 PM
Never ski on the snow from yesterday .
December 16, 2014 at 6:43 PM
Don’t eat the yellow snow.
December 16, 2014 at 9:56 PM
LoL , i just ordered a whole pig rear leg for Christmas, brine the sucker for 24 hours than 20 hours in the smoker, till cutting temp around 165, bast it with Jack and maple sirup, and than , o jees and than !
December 17, 2014 at 6:06 AM
Sounds good Joop. What time will it be ready?
December 17, 2014 at 12:18 PM
I,am looking around 12:00 the 25th, be there , i,am just a 1000 miles or so from you
December 17, 2014 at 4:44 PM
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/12/16/Exclusive-Col-Rob-Maness-Launches-GATOR-PAC-In-Louisiana-With-Help-From-Ted-Cruz-David-Vitter-Bill-Cassidy
December 17, 2014 at 9:11 PM
I saw that one Joop. In fact, I posted it on my Green Gator website.
December 18, 2014 at 2:40 AM
Top, we suppose you are not coming to kill a pork leg, o well some less garlic backed potato with bacon to make, and a bit less spicy ( i mean spicy ) smoked beans with pineapple ( with an infuse of apple cider )..no garlic bread for you and no ice cream full of nuts with Hersey chocolate sauce.
And i have to drink the leftover Jack by myself with a good cup of cafe and a cigar.
I,am still thinking to have a dip in the pool before or after the pigging out..
O well i figure that out to.
But for sure , a very nice end of the December month to your all, from Joop and his crew.