Yay, Putin! Obama go home! EU? ( Cue the laugh track! )
( Want to laugh? Watch Susan Rice defending the strike on Syria unaware of how irrelevant EVERYTHING she is saying has become. – JW )
http://www.cbsnews.com/2718-201_162-1950/cbs-news-live-video/?tag=custom
Also, WH press briefing live now.
( Weasel Carney already giving Obummer credit for Russia’s proposal. )
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September 9, 2013 at 7:39 PM
The absolute weak ass nature of the current regime in the US should hopefully have alarm bells ringing louder than before in certain parts and that they will now see beyond any doubt that they will have to take care of business on their own, as they see fit.
September 9, 2013 at 7:41 PM
I hope all this becomes real and the issue of Iran is still in front of us, but the real comedy will be Tuesday evening when the President claims credit for the withdrawal of Syrian chemical weapons. Now we will hear everyday not only did he kill Ben Laden but he saved the world from conflict in Syria. Start handing out the barf bags
September 9, 2013 at 7:47 PM
Barf bags? Why waste a chance to howl with laughter?
We should all drop acid or mushrooms and watch together.
Talk about a trip!
September 9, 2013 at 8:01 PM
LOL…that was funny.
September 9, 2013 at 8:04 PM
Still and all, the threat of using the US military got everyone’s attention and made other alternatives more acceptable by the Russians and Syrians. Sure beats war in my book and if this comes to pass, the threat of CW use against Israel is diminished if not removed.
While the US may seem weakened politically on the international scene, the US military can still kick some serious butt and the Ruskies know it.
September 9, 2013 at 7:48 PM
The US are saying they have serious scepticism with the Russian plan
September 9, 2013 at 7:50 PM
“They have bigger dicks? BOMB THEM!!!”
– George Carlin
September 9, 2013 at 8:00 PM
The comedian in chief presents his cabinet:
Monty Barrak’s flying circus.
The stars of the ensemble are:
Barry Abott and John Costello
aka
Stan Obavez and Oliver Kerry.
aka
Don Obavez and John Peppone
aka
Dumb and Dumber
What a joke. I’ve stopped I while ago to take them seriously. The only way to bear this pathetic display of amateurish incompetence is to laugh it off.
A famous line from the Marx Brothers just came to mind:
“These are my principles! If you don’t like them … I have others”.
September 9, 2013 at 8:02 PM
“Take our President… Please ! )
September 9, 2013 at 8:07 PM
That’s too much for me.
Maybe Putin would grant them asylum?
No. A better idea came to my mind.
How about them taking a four year tour a la Scaramouche.
Who will play Scaramouche? What do you think JW?
September 9, 2013 at 8:13 PM
Galileo?
September 9, 2013 at 8:32 PM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045125/
September 9, 2013 at 8:35 PM
I was going with Freddy Mercury.
September 9, 2013 at 8:41 PM
Bohemian Rhapsody. One of my alltime favourites.
September 9, 2013 at 8:50 PM
Nothing really maters, anyone can see.
Nothing really matters.
Nothing really matters… To me….
September 9, 2013 at 8:32 PM
They certainly are incompetent AR. I think they just go lucky on this one.
September 9, 2013 at 8:58 PM
Who knows. Sometimes the Lord makes good things out of the greatest madness and the darkest evil.
Let’s hope.
Have a good night everybody.
September 9, 2013 at 8:58 PM
I’m going to go out on a limb here folks…..divine intervention perhaps?
September 9, 2013 at 9:00 PM
VATICAN CITY — Tens of thousands of people filled St. Peter’s Square for a four-hour Syria peace vigil late Saturday, answering Pope Francis’ call for a grassroots cry for peace that was echoed by Christians and non-Christians alike in Syria and in vigils around the world.
September 9, 2013 at 9:00 PM
You just thought the same as I.
September 9, 2013 at 9:07 PM
I don’t count chickens before they hatch.
At the same time, I grab every chance that arises for hope.
Layla tov, chevre… ( Sweet dreams, my friends. )
September 10, 2013 at 3:05 PM
You’re right JW. A lot of questions will have to be answered such as:
Timetable for removal.
Method of removal.
Site of storage.
Outside verification.
Who verifies.
Cease fire while removing.
Verify all CW’s removed.
By whom.
…and finally, the $65 dollar question….What the heck did Syria get in return? Afterall, they relied on the CW’s as a last resort so to speak. What protection was promised by the Russians? I wonder. Syria caved too quickly in my opinion. Something’s going on.
September 10, 2013 at 3:21 PM
Sorry, Steve…. Bull!
While it’s true that nobody’s afraid of the timorous and vacillating Obama administration, EVERYONE is afraid of what Israel might do.
This insures that when Israel acts it won’t be against the client Assad but against the Iranian source.
Assad may be allied with Iran but he wants to stay in power first and foremost. He can deal with the rebellion. He can’t survive an Israeli attack and he knows it.
If the Americans did their “ridiculously small” attack, there’s no guarantee that Israel wouldn’t follow with the coup de grace.
Assad stays, Al Qaeda gets defeated and Israel focuses solely on Iran when and if it needs to.
I’m pleased with this potential…. For now.
September 10, 2013 at 5:20 PM
What part of what I said is ‘bull’? I’m a bit confused on your position regarding Putin’s ‘peace’ proposal. I only question the ‘honesty’ in securing Assad’s CW’s. He’s hidden them before and moved them around to avoid detection in the past. Furthermore, the UN monitors have a terrible track record to monitor things like CW’s, nuclear material, Iran, etc. So who’s going to ensure Assad will not have access to these CW’s if Israel does attack Iran?
September 9, 2013 at 11:50 PM
Hi guys,
1st we want to say think you to Luis for his nice response to our message a few days ago.
2nd about the possible Russian, Syrian, Iran, US deal ( Iran was involved in the deal somehow). The deal is a nice idea, and yes it might have averted a bigger war for now, but even though we want to believe in the deal, but who could put any faith into it.
Russia and its allies formulated the deal, who can believe in Russia and its allies. Russia is the hypocrite that has been pretending to support peace, but sending billions of dollars, simple and advanced weapons, and its ships to the Mediterranean to support the Syrian regime, while warning the US and its allies not to get involved.
We know people will ask, what other alternatives are there? The US and its allies have invested billions in R&D for advanced weapons for defence, and defence of its allies, and to punish those breaking international law, and the pentagon and other Intelligence agencies can plan and implement the necessary military mission.
If the US doesn’t use what it has then its just wasted money.
We don’t want war, most people don’t wasn’t war, but like in we think in one of Luis messages, we thought he wrote that war is a bad option, but sometimes its necessary, as with the example of bombing some German city near the end of WW2 for 3 days and 25, 000 died in 3 days, that is awful that 25, 000 people died in 3 days,
If the Allies took military action while Germany was threatening Poland, and we think Czechoslovakia, then still sadly many innocent lives would have been lost, but millions less would have died, that died as a result of WW2.
Its sad to think that people would trust a deal formulated by Russia and its allies, and monitored by some part of the UN. The Iranian nuclear program was monitored by some part of the UN, and look at the result, and the bigger problem we have now.
Also the some part of the UN was supposed to set barriers so the Assads wouldn’t get the chemical and biological weapons, or weapons ability they have now.
Some part of the UN was supposed to monitor and enforce or get others to enforce the UN agreement between Israel and Hezbollah or Lebanon that Hezbollah wouldn’t arm itself with 100, 000 missiles to attack Israel with, and many people kept reporting that Hezbollah had 20, 000 missiles before the war, and they were smuggling missiles so they went from 20, 000 – 40 – 60- 100, 000, and no one did anything.
The Iron Dome, and all the Israeli missile interceptors are very advanced, but they are no match to the 60 – 100, 000 missiles Hezbollah has + 100, 000 missiles Syria has, and we don’t know how many thousands that Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and other muslim countries have.
The Iron Dome and others are amazing, but they are like a fake bandage that everyone feels good about, but sadly are no match to 100, 000 – 300, 000 or more missiles pointed at it.
The Nuclear option wont be a deterrence anymore, because with Iran, and some other muslim or countries hostile to Israel have or will have nuclear weapons, or dirty bombs, nuclear suitcases, or nuclear suicide bombers, that will be sadly used against Israel, and definitely threatened to be used against Israel, unless Israel does whatever its secretly ordered to do.
We have been told that one of many reasons the last Hezbollah Israel war ended because either Hezbollah or someone else threatened Israels destruction with chemical weapons and Israels nuclear deterrence didn’t work.
Weve read that Russia manipulated Britain and many of the EU countries to wont against a Syria strike by threatening them with blocking some part of the Russian oil transactions.
So yes, a bigger war was averted for now, but some think it has only been kicked further down the road, temporarily avoided.
Syria and Iran should have been taken care of long time ago, as the writer on this blog John the Prophet wrote when a lot less would have died, there was an opportunity to take care of Syria and Iran now, in the future millions more will die when the opportunity arises again or we will be slaves either to most of the radical muslims, or somekind of authoritarian as North Korea, Russia, China, or another.
How could anyone trust any real or fake UN or other deal in the future with Iran and its allies about Irans nuclear program.
September 9, 2013 at 11:56 PM
Putin vs Obama and Kerry aka dumb and dumber. Putin wins hands down every time. Putin plays world class chess blindfolded. Obama couldn’t play a mediocre game of checkers with both eyes open.
September 10, 2013 at 12:13 AM
Please Israel and the world take care of Syria and Iran now, or with a nuclear Iran, other muslim countries and terrorists, we will live under forced oppression and slavery from Radical muslims or some sort of dictatorships, or tortured and murdered as what Radical muslims and dictatorships do to people who don’t want to be slaves.
Please pray for the safety of Israel and the world, and that they will use force to stop Iran and other countries from getting nuclear weapons and other WMDs, because 10 – 20 years of talking and deception by Iran, and other countries – as North Korea, and others.
Its important to try diplomacy to find a solution, but decades of deception by Iran and other countries doesn’t find a solution, only helps North Korea and other countries to become Nuclear, and now Iran and other muslim countries will become nuclear, unless military intervention happens, the talking and deception by Iran didn’t give us a diplomatic solution, only a nuclear Iran threatening to destroy others.
People either with bad intelligence or bad intentions keep negotiating with a country that has been deceiving them for the last 10 – 20 years about their nuclear program.
Thank you, Smiley.
September 10, 2013 at 3:52 AM
First, we want to thank Smiley for taking interest in our humble ideas. Secondly, we have to point out that once in a period of time, a new Chamberlain is been born and a new Munich 1938 appeasement is unfolding under the very eyes of ours.
What we have now, as the bottom line, is the nation of Israel fighting alone against Iran, Syria and Hezbollah. We know it will prevail, because Israel will never be alone ,it has the Father on its side, Who, at the dawn of the civilization, made a promise to His beloved people; that promise is been fulfilled in our present times, when the people of Israel has come back in the Holly Land, to rise its home here as it was written a very long time ago. The beasts surrounding us are instinctively feeling uneasy with our presence here, they are barking, yelling and even biting each other, for they don’t know Him, but somehow they are aware of Him and are afraid of the God of Israel to which we are praying now to bless all of us, as we are praying to the memory of Jesus, his beloved Son, which we will never forget.
May a very good new year be upon us all.
September 10, 2013 at 6:02 AM
Dear Luis, we thank you for your nice message you sent us.
You are humble to write that you and the others are writing “humble ideas”, you guys have had thorough, in depth and well thought out ideas.
We wish everyone on this site would discuss and share ideas and or whatever website or article they can inform us with.
We think we should all try to be supportive of each other, discuss each others messages, BUT we should NOT belittle, call each other names, or put each other down, or write aggressive , bullying messages.
We Pray that the US and or Israel and its allies will get rid of the Iranian nuclear threat militarily
We dont want war, but 10 – 20 years of deception and lying by Iran and its allies about its nuclear program is to much.
Iran and its allies are lying negotiators, and they will get nuclear weapons, nuclear suitcases, nuclear suicide bombers, and
Iran will give those abilities to other countries and suicide bombers —— UNLESS the US and or Israel and its allies will get rid of the Iranian nuclear threat militarily.
We pray that what Luis eloquently wrote that “Israel has the Father on its side” will protect Israel and World, and all of Gods Children of All Religions — >
( “Israel will never be alone ,it has the Father on its side, Who, at the dawn of the civilization, made a promise to His beloved people; that promise is been fulfilled in our present times, when the people of Israel has come back in the Holly Land, to rise its home here as it was written a very long time ago.” )
We pray for the safety of Israel and the World, and all of Gods Children of All Religions.
God Please Hear Our Prayers, and Please Help the US and or Israel and its allies will get rid of the Iranian nuclear program and nuclear threat militarily in the next 1 – 2 weeks, or 1 – 2 months, we have been waiting for 10 – 20 years. We dont want Israel and the World, and all of Gods Children of All Religions to become slaves of radical Islam or Dictatorships, and / or get tortured and murdered.
Thank you to everybody who has written messages on Joseph Wouks blog.
September 10, 2013 at 4:34 AM
Never trust ex-KGB agents bearing gifts.
September 10, 2013 at 11:36 AM
The dumbness of this administration is dropping below the red line. It is functioning like a banana-republic.
In the last 24 hours, Obama, Kerry, Rice, WH spokesman, State department spokeswoman have said different contradicting funny things.
I suggest in the future, the Americans should ask the presidential candidates for their IQ transcripts along with their birth certificates.
September 10, 2013 at 12:11 PM
Everybody – and we mean, everybody – is very happy with the Russian initiative. Finally, we have ” peace in our times”. Impressive.
September 10, 2013 at 12:26 PM
Noble peace prize for Putin+Assad??!!!
September 10, 2013 at 12:41 PM
Obama: I take a solemn oath that if any regime commits crime against humanity or endangers US national security will cross my red lines, then I get very angry and refer to the Congress to authorize me to put complain to the UN.
September 10, 2013 at 1:08 PM
After giving him a momentary reprive, Putin will play Obama like a balalaika for the next few months. Meanwhile, Americans should press Congress to go around Syria and directly confront Iran. It might help lift our credibility out of the mud.
September 10, 2013 at 3:00 PM
Are you guys living a bubble ?
Most people in Western countries remember the lies of Colin Powell when he showed fake proofs about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction.
Today, most people in Western countries consider that there is no proof that Syria used chemical weapons; Al Qaeda and the CIA are just as credible suspects, if not more, in the minds of many people. And they would rather see their soldiers used against criminal Muslims in European cities and suburbs, or money spent to help people who lost their job.
And Russia can pressure Europe easily : if Russian gas is not delivered to European people next winter, Europeans will either freeze to death by the millions or start a revolution against their U.S. aligned governments.
Read this article and get real : http://osnetdaily.com/2013/09/syria-war-is-it-about-the-last-gasp-for-the-petrodollar/
The Russian offer is valuable if Obama can pressure Syria to get all the chemical weapons destroyed under international supervision.
Washington is so corrupt and so deep in debt, and other countries have become so powerful and independent, that the U.S. oligarchy is less feared and powerful that it was 20 years ago.
Israel will have to deal with Iran alone, or strike an alliance with China and Russia to force Iran to stop its nuclear program.