FWIW – Obama’s Speech to Israel – March 21, 2013
FWIW – Obama’s Speech to Israel – March 21, 2013 – YouTube.
For what it’s worth….
Obama delivers the finest speech ever given by a US President about Israel, and possibly the finest speech of his Presidency. – JW
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WarSclerotic 
March 21, 2013 at 8:47 PM
JW, I have not watched obavez speech yet.
Talking about ideological blinders. Remember, I judge others not by their words but by their actions (or lack thereof).
So far he gave a lot of fine speeches but his record is abysmal.
Fine speeches are not sufficient to convince me.
I wish nothing more than to be proven wrong and that the Iranian threat will be eliminated and that you and the ‘Palestinians’ will live in peace.
If obavez contributes to Israel’s safety by dealing with Iran (not necessary militarily) or by supporting Israel when it deals with Iran and if he contributes to a lasting peace, I will be the first to admit that I was wrong.
Until then I’ll remain sceptical.
Greetings
Artaxes
March 21, 2013 at 11:25 PM
Joseph, I can’t believe you accept Obama’s assessment of the peace with the Palestinians!
“Peace will have to be made among peoples, not just governments.”
Exactly, and the majority of the population both in Gaza and the West Bank repeatedly reject peace with Israel because their religion/ideology tells them to do so. So just like a perpetual motion machine is impossible to create because it contradicts the Laws of Thermodynamics, so peace with the Palestinians is impossible because it contradicts Islamic theology, Do you really believe that Muslim Palestinians will go against what Muhammad said?
Hadith Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 177 and quotes the Prophet Muhammad:
http://www.hadithcollection.com/sahihbukhari/85/3715-sahih-bukhari-volume-004-book-052-hadith-number-177.html
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”
“Peace is possible.” Is it? Here is my letter to the Jerusalem Post from 2009:
The case for strength
Sir, – Both your May 22 editorial “The week that was” (“Israel needs to ensure that it does not allow itself to be depicted as the obstacle to peace”) and Caroline Glick’s “Netanyahu’s peace plan” (same date), which defined Netanyahu’s greatest challenges in office as “prevent(ing) Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons while preventing the Obama administration from blaming Israel for the absence of peace,” assume that peace is possible.
Is this assumption based on reality? Yes, but not the way the Koran defines peace, which is submission by all to Muslim rule. So we need peace defined in a way which would fit both sides.
Does such a way exist? Yes.
Muslims are permitted not to wage jihad if the infidel side is perceived as too strong, in which case 10 years of hudna or cease-fire is permitted, after which the conditions for jihad are reevaluated.
The best we can therefore hope for, until these concepts are rendered obsolete by Muslims themselves, is a perpetual state of back-to-back, 10-year-long hudnas.
Clearly, amid such a reality, Israel’s strength would not be perceived as an obstacle to peace, but as the only viable solution.
March 22, 2013 at 3:55 AM
Peace will only be possible once Iran and by extension Hezbollah and Hamas are taken out of the equation.
March 22, 2013 at 4:34 AM
The devil speaks sweetly just before he takes you down to hell.
March 22, 2013 at 6:28 AM
Always interesting reading at http://generationaldynamics.com/pg/ww2010.weblog.htm
regarding Mideast Peace Plan